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		<title>Anak ng tatlumpung tokwa, bakit ba ganyan?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know that point where you&#8217;re about ready to give up? It could be that horrendous term paper, a 10-kilometer marathon, or a really big fight. It seems there are so many odds against you, and it would be so much easier to give up. I felt like that when I was trying to fix [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know that point where you&#8217;re about ready to give up? It could be that horrendous term paper, a 10-kilometer marathon, or a really big fight. It seems there are so many odds against you, and it would be so much easier to give up. I felt like that when I was trying to fix my <strong>birth certificate</strong>.<span id="more-373"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://02202010.com/2010/01/anak-ng-tatlumpung-tokwa-hindi-pa-tapos/#more-364" target="_blank">As you can see, the list of requirements is about a mile long</a>. But I figured, it&#8217;s just tedious, but I can do it. Maybe I could spend a day or two gathering all the documents, and be ready for the initial assessment and interview the next day, or even Monday. A terse but helpful lady at the LCRO Table of Requirements pointed me to step 1, where I could fill up a form to request for the latest certified/local copies of Mom&#8217;s and my birth certificates. I filled up and submitted the request, and they told me to go to the next room and wait.</p>
<p>Apparently, all the miserable people, ehem, I mean, applicants, had to wait in this large room, and your name would be called over a sound system. Your request would be handed to you, and you would be directed to an available City Hall employee at the counters, who would tell you what to do next.</p>
<p>I made a mistake with my first attempt, and wrote my mother&#8217;s full name on the request for my birth certificate. Since the error was with her name to begin with, naturally they didn&#8217;t find the original/local copy of my birth certificate. It was at this point that the clerk told me I would have to go to the hospital where I was born, and ask the clerk there for a copy. I nodded politely, thanked her, and left the waiting room. Then I walked to the corridor near the LCRO Table of Requirements, called Oneal, and promptly started crying. &#8220;They couldn&#8217;t find my birth certificate *sniff* and now they said *heave* I have to go *sniff sniff* to Mary Chiles! *cough* How the <em>hell</em> am I supposed to know where the hell that is! *sob* I don&#8217;t know how to get there!&#8221; Around me, other applicants were walking, staring, looking at their own impossible lists.</p>
<p>Oneal did his best to reassure me that we could find the hospital, things would work out, we would find all the documents and make the correction and it would be fine. I&#8217;m sure he felt very helpless, sitting in the office while I was in the dusty, decrepit concrete jungle that is Manila City Hall, battling my way through the red tape. Oh hunny, I&#8217;m so sorry to have stressed you out.</p>
<p>When I put the phone down, I realized my mistake, and decided to try again. I got two more forms, and filled up one with all the same information that was on my actual birth certificate. I also filled out a request for a copy of my mom&#8217;s birth certificate. But by this time it was almost noon, and I feared I would have to wait an hour or two while the city hall employees went on their lunch breaks. To my surprise, a very enthusiastic man at the waiting room counters explained over the PA system that they would not close for lunch, that they would have lunch in shifts, and that they would still process the requests. Despite the fact that the city hall <em>manangs</em> were grumpy, it cheered me up a tad that this nice old man was trying to keep our hopes up.</p>
<p>Eventually my turn came, and thankfully it was a success. Another terse lady called me over, made some notes on my request forms, and told me to walk to the next building, pay the fees, then come back and submit the payment stub at Step 2. With a lighter heart I walked out of the LCRO (damn accursed place) and towards the Taxpayers Lounge. I was but a few feet from the lounge when I was accosted by a nice man, who asked where I was going.</p>
<p>I thought he was a city hall employee, since the other hallways seemed to have other staff whose sole duty was to direct people towards the right office. I said I was going to the Taxpayers Lounge, and he asked what my problem was. So I explained that I was having my birth certificate corrected, and he exclaimed that it was a long and arduous process that would take at least six months. But not to worry! He had a solution, and he beckoned me to follow him to his friend on the second floor, and the problem would be fixed in a week.</p>
<p>Gladly I went with him, complaining about the bureaucracy as we climbed the stairs. On the second floor he led me down the row of councilors&#8217; offices. We stopped outside one such office, and he introduced me to this fat, middle-aged woman sitting by the window, talking to another fat, middle-aged woman. He explained my problem, and told me that this woman (I forget her name) could help me. So I sat beside her, and explained my problem in greater detail. I thought we would enter the councilor&#8217;s office and talk there, but the woman seemed perfectly content to hold office by the window. She said if I went the LCRO way, it would take months and months, plus a court hearing, to change my birth certificate.  If I did it her way, she would just write out a court order stating that I had submitted the petition for the correction three months ago, and my birth certificate was now fixed. It would only take a week, and P2,500.</p>
<p>It was while she was explaining the process to me that I noticed she wore no ID, and seemed to have worn a groove in the seat because she was just so comfortable there. She must have noticed the decline in my enthusiasm, because she said it could also be done for only P1,000, but it would take two weeks. It was at this point that I realized: I was actually talking to a fixer! Preparing for this wedding has certainly opened doors to totally new experiences.</p>
<p>When she was done explaining, I said I would have to think about it. She gave me her number, which I dutifully wrote down, and I said I would call her once I had the money. As soon as I was out of her line of sight, I ran downstairs and made a beeline for the Taxpayers Lounge, eager to avoid any other nice old men who would try to offer me the easy way out. Once I was in line to pay the fee, I called Oneal and told him about the whole debacle.</p>
<p>When I got off the phone with Oneal, the pregnant woman in front of me told me she had actually done exactly as Fixer Woman had said, but through a lawyer or something who actually worked at City Hall and was a family friend, someone her family knew and trusted. I think I just politely said I didn&#8217;t know anyone at city hall, so I&#8217;d just have to stick it out. I paid my fees (which took a comedic turn, because they opened up a Senior Citizen&#8217;s lane and one old lady protested when the clerk called her &#8220;lola&#8221;), went back to the LCRO, submitted my payment stub, and was told to come back on Monday to claim the birth certificates.</p>
<p>By this time it was past 1:00, and there was nothing more I could do at City Hall. I trudged to SM Manila, found myself some meager lunch fare&#8211;which I couldn&#8217;t even finish&#8211;and called Oneal for another update. Notice, by the way, that the day had been spent trying to obtain only items 1 and 2 from Manila City Hall. The other seven items are another story. Abangan!</p>
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		<title>Anak ng tatlumpung tokwa! Hindi pa tapos!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rej</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even when we knew what we had to do, things seemed hopeless. The confirmation certificate: Come Tuesday, December 15, we called Mount Carmel, and the verdict was out on my confirmation certificate: the Diocese said we had to get a copy of the original from Abu Dhabi, or at least some sort of certification stating [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even when we knew what we had to do, things seemed hopeless.</p>
<p><strong>The confirmation certificate:</strong></p>
<p>Come Tuesday, December 15, we called Mount Carmel, and the verdict was out on my confirmation certificate: the Diocese said we had to get a copy of the original from Abu Dhabi, or at least some sort of certification stating that the confirmation had indeed taken place on the date and at the place we claimed in the original certificate we presented.</p>
<p>Great. How were we supposed to do that? There was an address for the Vicar Apostolic of Arabia on my certificate, but it was just a PO Box. All seemed bleak.<span id="more-364"></span></p>
<p><strong>The birth certificate:</strong></p>
<p>As the parish instructed, I went to the City Hall of the municipality where I was born, Manila. Fortunately, Mom was also born in Manila, so if I needed any of her documents from the Local Civil Registry Office (LCRO) it would be one less thing to worry about. At least, that&#8217;s what I thought.</p>
<p>I got a copy of Mom&#8217;s birth certificate, and made photocopies of mine, and prepared all the wedding documents and my own papers of all sorts from various government offices. Thus armed, I made my way to Manila City Hall on December 17. Fortunately, Tita Baby was able to spare her driver, Dexter, so I didn&#8217;t need to contend with traffic or a horrid commute in addition to my already significant distress.</p>
<p>I arrived at Manila City Hall, and found the LCRO. At the entrance was a large table manned by at least four employees, and their sole responsibility, it seemed, was to figure out what people needed to do with their birth, death or marriage certificate, and give them the proper set of requirements and instructions. Given the mass of people who went through that office every single day, it was no wonder they assigned four people to the table. On it, arranged from one end to the other, front to back, were neatly arranged stacks of paper, each stack a different set of instructions and requirements. There were so many different stacks that you couldn&#8217;t see the table&#8217;s surface. Did I mention that this table was nigh inaccessible? So many people needed corrections on their birth certificates that there was literally a swarm at the LCRO entrance.</p>
<p>My problem was &#8220;Correction of Clerical Error on the Middle Name or Mother&#8217;s Name of Unmarried Petitioner.&#8221; When you think about how specific that is, then you can understand why there were so many variations on the requirements. If I were married, I would have to submit a longer list of papers. The requirements would be different if it were my father&#8217;s name I had to change, or my birth date, or my birth place&#8230; the list of permutations goes on.</p>
<p>So after explaining the problem in as calm and polite a manner as I could to the nice young man in front of me, I got my list of requirements. One look at it and I was ready to give up. I mean, how would you feel if you saw this list?</p>
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<li>2 latest certified/local copies and 2 latest NSO copies of birth certificate to be corrected (T<em>hat would be mine.</em>)</li>
<li>2 latest certified copies of birth certificate/death certificate of mother. If certification of no record was issued please submit birth certificate or marriage contract of mother&#8217;s 2 brother or sister.</li>
<li>2 latest certified copies of marriage contract of parents. If certification of no record was issued please submit birth certificate or marriage contract of 2 brother or sister.</li>
<li>2 copies of baptismal certificate (<em>I don&#8217;t know why they need this</em>.)</li>
<li>2 copies of school record, Elementary, High School or College (form 137 or transcript of records)</li>
<li>2 certified copies of voter&#8217;s registration record/voters affidavit (COMELEC)</li>
<li>2 copies valid ID of the petitioner and the document owner and 1 copy of latest community tax certificate from the place of work or residence</li>
<li>Other documents which the Office may consider relevant and necessary for the approval of the Petition. (GSIS/SSS records, Medical Records, Business Records, School Records, Insurance, Land Title, Bank Passbook)</li>
</ol>
<p>NOTE: (<em>This was on my set of instructions and requirements</em>) All marriage contract, birth and death certificates to be submitted should be latest certified xerox copy when issued in Manila, if issued outside Manila, Security Paper from NSO.</p>
<p>Steps to Follow:</p>
<ol>
<li>Submit all requirements for assessment and initial interview. Please bring all original documents and ID.</li>
<li>Preparation of petition paper.</li>
<li>Final Interview</li>
<li>Pay at Taxpayer&#8217;s Lounge.</li>
<li>Receiving and filing of petition paper and all documents.</li>
</ol>
<p>I already had some of those documents, since they were also required by the church. Some of the others I thought I could easily acquire. I figured, I would spend a day gathering the documents, and I could come back the next day to file the petition.</p>
<p>Well, you know how such assumptions fare. Suffice to say that the odyssey of compiling all the required documents was so arduous a journey that to write it all down now would simply take too much time and far, far too many words. There&#8217;s gonna be a part 3 to this series of travails, and it&#8217;s going to be bloody. All I will say now is that the worst part of the ordeal was that I was all alone when I started gathering and requesting the requirements at Manila City Hall that day, and the initial disappointment was so devastating that I burst into tears right in the middle of the LCRO while whining to Oneal over the phone. &#8220;How the hell do I know how to get to the hospital where I was born?&#8221; I bawled, not caring about the masses who walked past me as I hiccuped and sniffed in my distress.</p>
<p><strong>The baptismal certificate:</strong></p>
<p>Oneal&#8217;s baptismal certificate seemed the least of our worries. The Jose in his name was just put there because in 1973, priests refused to baptize children unless they had Christian names. I suppose back then what counted as a Christian name only included English, Filipinized or Hispanicized names of saints. I think they&#8217;re less fussy about names now.</p>
<p>Mount Carmel told us that we would have to go back to San Vicente de Paul and ask them how to correct or amend his baptismal certificate. So after my initial foray to Manila City Hall and a sad, lonely lunch (which I couldn&#8217;t even finish) at SM Manila, I ventured to the church to inquire about the process. It seems this is a common problem, because when I explained to the parish office what I needed, they gave me a small slip of paper with a short list of requirements: notarized letter of request, photocopy of the baptismal certificate, and a valid ID. Oneal would have to submit the request to the parish, and they would give him a letter which he would have to bring to the Office of the Chancery in Intramuros. They were the only ones authorized to make the correction on the baptismal certificate; I supposed they were the Church&#8217;s version of the LCRO.</p>
<p>Next to my mountain of problems, this was quite a petite molehill. But with everything we needed to do, I found that I was just so tired and stressed that the mere thought of visiting another city hall, another government office, or another parish office made me dizzy. I found myself looking to the heavens and asking God, &#8220;Is this a sign? Are you telling us to stop? Don&#8217;t you want us to get married?&#8221;</p>
<p>Calling me disheartened at this point would have been a gross understatement. But we trudged on. I even managed to make it to Karen&#8217;s condo that evening for a small geek dinner, but I was so exhausted that I fell asleep on the couch.</p>
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		<title>Anak ng tokwa, ang hirap naman magpakasal.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rej</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like every free day or hour we have is spent on the wedding. Or in the car, going somewhere wedding-related. Take Wednesday, for example. We spent Tuesday night in Roseroland, then woke up bright and early on Wednesday to go to Parañaque City Hall. We applied for the marriage license, which only took [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like every free day or hour we have is spent on the wedding. Or in the car, going somewhere wedding-related. Take Wednesday, for example.</p>
<p>We spent Tuesday night in Roseroland, then woke up bright and early on Wednesday to go to Parañaque City Hall. We applied for the marriage license, which only took an hour. The documents required were the CENOMARs (Certificates of No Previous Marriage, obtained from the NSO), our NSO-certified birth certificates, and Oneal&#8217;s barangay clearance, since he&#8217;s a resident of Parañaque.<span id="more-340"></span></p>
<p>We went to the office, where the nice lady gave us a form to fill up&#8211;in triplicate. Naturally Oneal made me fill them up&#8211;&#8221;Your handwriting&#8217;s much better than mine!&#8221;&#8211;while he went to have our CENOMARs and birth certificates photocopied. That form was pretty detailed. Not only did it ask for the bride and groom&#8217;s personal information, but also for our parents&#8217; information. Good thing I&#8217;m 28&#8211;if I&#8217;d been anywhere from 18 to 25, I would need a parent&#8217;s permission to get the marriage license. Zoiks.</p>
<p>Upon completion of the form, we had to have it notarized. We went to a law office that the nice lady specified, and for P50 they notarized and signed the forms. Then we had to make a payment of P200 at a payment lounge. Then we returned to the nice lady (it helps to be there early, and to smile at them), who gave us a slip of paper and told us to go to the DSWD office on the second floor for counseling.</p>
<p>This is the funny part. The nice lady told us the counseling wouldn&#8217;t take long. So we went to the office with our slips of paper, and a secretary told us to sit down, fill up some forms and sign our names on some logbooks, while she typed up a form with our names and had it signed by some lady of authority. Upon signing our certificates, she called Oneal, gave us the certificates, and said we could go. Uhm. Yep, counseling! Oneal said, &#8220;Well, if they leave you alone for a few minutes and you don&#8217;t end up yelling at each other, then you don&#8217;t need counseling!&#8221; Haay.</p>
<p>Then back to nice lady, who gave us our receipt and told us to come back for the license on December 21. Done!</p>
<p>Up next: Oneal&#8217;s baptismal certificate! We were done at the city hall by 10, so we rushed to San Vicente de Paul church in Manila, near Adamson University and TUP. Traffic was getting congested, and it was 11:30 when we made it there. Fortunately the parish office didn&#8217;t close for lunch till noon, so we had time. Oneal got his baptismal certificate. Yay!</p>
<p>We hadn&#8217;t eaten anything since breakfast at 6:30 AM, so we went to Makati for lunch. By 3:00 we were on the way to Bulacan, to get our wedding rings and arrhae. Traffic was bad, and I was tired and full. I fell asleep somewhere in Mandaluyong; when I woke up, we were back on EDSA and approaching Cubao. The jewelry shop was closing at 5, so we had to hurry down NLEX to get to Meycauayan. It was a little past 4 when we made it there, and boy was the trip worth it. Our rings are beautiful! So beautiful that I didn&#8217;t want to take mine off na. It looked so lovely on my finger, next to my engagement ring. The jeweler said it was a really nice design, like something she saw from Bulgari. Sosyal!</p>
<p>After that, it was back south. We went to the Fort, and hopped into Make Room for our wedding registry. We started picking out a few things, while waiting for Aids to come over so we could go to the dress shop. It was fun to pick out things for our new home (wherever that may be). It must be noted that most of the things we picked out were kitchen items and serving dishes; we love having people over, and we expect that both our families will be coming over a lot, especially when we have our first baby!</p>
<p>Then Aids arrived, and we went to Tita Jenny&#8217;s. He got measured for his barong, and we discussed Oneal&#8217;s barong with Tita Jenny. Also, good news for the lovely ladies of the entourage: your dresses will be ready for first fitting by next week. <img src='http://02202010.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Mine too!</p>
<p>So in one day, we:</p>
<ol>
<li>Applied for the marriage license</li>
<li>Got Oneal&#8217;s baptismal certificate</li>
<li>Got our wedding rings and arrhae</li>
<li>Picked out things for our wedding registry</li>
<li>Designed Oneal&#8217;s barong</li>
</ol>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot for one day! And WE&#8217;RE NOT DONE! *faint*</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is getting married so complicated?? All I want is to be one with my hunny bunny till death do us part. Why is there so much paperwork and fuss???? Right now, we&#8217;re working on our marriage license. We need to make a personal appearance at the Parañaque City Hall, and present our CENOMARs, NSO [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is getting married so complicated?? All I want is to be one with my hunny bunny till death do us part. Why is there so much paperwork and fuss????</p>
<p>Right now, we&#8217;re working on our marriage license. We need to make a personal appearance at the Parañaque City Hall, and present our CENOMARs, NSO birth certificates and Oneal&#8217;s certificate of residency.</p>
<p>We also made reservations to attend the pre-cana seminar at the Center for Family in Ateneo in January. But before we can do that, we need an authorization letter from the church. AND we need to submit our birth, baptismal and confirmation certificates. Egads! Surely getting married was never this complicated before?</p>
<p>On the upside, I think all the suppliers have been booked. The venue is now fully paid, yay! We&#8217;ve also finalized the program.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only two months away, and it feels like there&#8217;s still so much we need to do. To top it all off, it&#8217;s Christmas! But I guess Christmas is just another opportunity to be thankful that I have a wonderful Oneal who wants to marry me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a Merry Christmas indeed!</p>
<p>&#8211; rej</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s not often you&#8217;re happy with the service at government offices, so when it happens, it&#8217;s a cause for celebration! For the wedding, among the documents we need are birth certificates and certificates of no previous marriage (CENOMAR) from the National Statistics Office, dated within six months of the wedding. Since we only have 4 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not often you&#8217;re happy with the service at government offices, so when it happens, it&#8217;s a cause for celebration!</p>
<p>For the wedding, among the documents we need are birth certificates and certificates of no previous marriage (CENOMAR) from the National Statistics Office, dated within six months of the wedding. Since we only have 4 months and three weeks to go, I figured now was a good time to apply.</p>
<p>I went to the <a title="NSO" href="https://www.ecensus.com.ph/Secure/frmIndex.asp" target="_blank">website</a> (thanks to Dante for the link!), filled up the forms, and was done! It&#8217;s so wonderful when you can be efficient from the comfort of your own home. Even better, I was able to pay for the certificate requests online, through Banco de Oro online banking.</p>
<p>The website says it will take about two weeks for delivery. So not only can you make the request from your own home, and pay online, but your documents will also be delivered right to your doorstep! *happy dance*</p>
<p>&#8211; rej</p>
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		<title>Confirmed? Or confeermed?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rej</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mom found my confirmation certificate! Hooray! One of the things that&#8217;s been bugging us are the church requirements for couples who want to marry. Specifically, we&#8217;ve been trying to remember where our confirmation certificates are! I knew I was received the rite of confirmation when we were in Saudi Arabia, but I couldn&#8217;t remember exactly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom found my confirmation certificate! Hooray!</p>
<p>One of the things that&#8217;s been bugging us are the church requirements for couples who want to marry. Specifically, we&#8217;ve been trying to remember where our confirmation certificates are! I knew I was received the rite of confirmation when we were in Saudi Arabia, but I couldn&#8217;t remember exactly when, and where my certificate was.</p>
<p>Our pursuit of Oneal&#8217;s confirmation certificate turned into an Intramuros field trip. His mom had said he and his cousins were all confirmed at Manila Cathedral in 1975, so Oneal and I figured our search should start there. This would also be our opportunity to finall explore Intramuros on foot, camera in hand, something we&#8217;d been wanting to do for years.</p>
<p>We first headed to Manila Hotel for brunch with Oneal&#8217;s mom. Then the driver took us to Manila Cathedral, where we were just in time for the noon Mass. It was Ash Wednesday too, so it was lovely timing. The church was full, and we were able to receive the ash on our foreheads. After the Mass, the office was closed until 2:00, so we decided to go exploring first. We walked around Intramuros and on to San Agustin Church, took pictures of everything, and even found some pretty maritime offices and the Kaisa Filipino-Chinese Community Heritage Museum. One of these days we&#8217;ll go back and explore the museums.</p>
<p>At 2:00, we were back in Manila Cathedral, and the office was open. Oneal inquired at the window, and was promptly told that all records for rties performed prior to 1976 were stored in San Agustin. Oops. So we had to trudge back in the afternoon heat and the dust of the city, back to the office at San Agustin.</p>
<p>You can imagine our relief when the girl at the office found the certificate. She was using a slow old computer, and to search their database she used a DOS program, filling in the blanks with the information Oneal provided on the form. It was a slow search, and we had to take a seat while waiting, but at least the records are computerized! The results told her not only that Oneal was confirmed in the Manila Cathedral in 1975, but also told her the ledger and line number where the original record could be found! We were really happy and relieved.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the certificate would only be valid for 6 months, so if we got a copy then, it would be expired well before our wedding day. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s a relief to know exactly where the certificate is, and how to get it when we need it.</p>
<p>Next: my confirmation certificate! Seeing as how I can&#8217;t exactly go back to Saudi Arabia and I wasn&#8217;t confirmed in an actual church, I&#8217;m not sure how the Mount Carmel parish will react to my confirmation story. Still, Mom found my certificate and gave it to me today, so I can at least consult a priest and ask if that&#8217;s acceptable, or if I need to be confirmed again.</p>
<p>Wish me luck!</p>
<p><strong>&#8211; rej</strong></p>
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